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Eye on the market: 7xx shops have mixed reaction to Model 810

By Sarah Kimmel
Monday, June 9, 2003

      IBM announced the latest generation of iSeries hardware six months ago, giving 7xx customers, who will lose their upgrade paths in October, a lot to think about.

      “A vast majority of the people who are on 7xx boxes today will move into the new i810 server, or possibly the i825. We hope to accelerate the process with the May introduction of the new baby 810 and new 7xx upgrade paths,” says Ian Jarman, iSeries product manager, IBM, Rochester, MN.

      For some of these customers, the answer was easy — the Model 810 was a perfect fit and came at the right time (IW 5/19/03). The City of Cuyahoga Falls was already looking for a new box in order to get their disaster recovery and availability solution in place.

      “We were budgeted to upgrade our Model 720 to an 820 this year, but when they announced the new models, we decided to upgrade to the i810 Enterprise Edition. It’s almost twice as big as our 720 and we dropped a processor point,” says Gary Bishop, system administrator, City of Cuyahoga Falls, Cuyahoga Falls, OH.

      However, the decision of what to upgrade to, or whether to upgrade at all, has not been as easy for other shops as it was for Cuyahoga Falls. Both pricing and timing have come into play for many 7xx customers, causing some to rethink upgrading at all.

      “The raw cost of the original Model 810 — just the processor and Enterprise Edition — is substantially more than the cost of my customers’ Model 7xx boxes. I have one customer that isn’t upgrading at all. Another is looking at the little 810, which costs about $25,000 less to start off with,” says Brian Kelly, IT consultant, Kelly Consulting, Scranton, PA.

      Kelly’s customer plans to upgrade to the new i810 before June 20 in order to take advantage of IBM’s 10% off 7xx-to-810 upgrade offer, allowing them to buy the additional hardware needed with the i810. “Because the 810 is so small, they are going to have to use their savings to purchase the $19,000 expansion tower in order to attach all their disk, I/O, and communications,” says Kelly.

Enterprise package keeps shops on 7xx

      Even with the announcement of the low-end i810, the new upgrade paths from 7xx hardware into that model, and the 10% off promotion, some shops are still finding it hard to make the case to get out of the 7xx line.

      “We want to add more computing capacity. Before the present IBM offerings, I would have made a straightforward upgrade to the latest model, but the price of the Enterprise Edition is prohibitive. The baby i810 would soften the blow, but it is still too much. The way to go seems to be to keep the present Model 720, upgrade to V5R2, and keep all the interactive applications on it as long as I can,” says Ranga Deshpande, IT director, Jules Bordet Institute, Brussels, Belgium.

      The shops that decide to remain on their 7xx box will lose their ability to upgrade on October 8, 2003. Although not officially announced, because V5R2 was the last supported release for the 6xx hardware, the follow-on release of OS/400 is expected to be the last supported release on the 7xx hardware.

Too little, too late

      Meanwhile, customers that upgraded just before the new hardware was announced face a whole new set of frustrations. Imagine buying a first-generation 8xx box and finding out a month later that you could have bought a newer box with more power, a better software tier, and unlimited 5250 interactive for a similar price.

      “We upgraded in December and a month later IBM came out with the same box for about the same list price but with a lower processor tier and twice the amount of interactive. If I had known, I would have convinced the company to wait another month on the upgrade,” says Dennis Rains, technical analyst, Maytag, Newton, IA.

      IBM realizes that some cases shops would have benefited much more by the January hardware. “The vast majority of customers that purchased hardware in 2002 believe that they got a good deal. There are a few cases where the customer didn’t benefit, and we have worked with them on an independent basis,” says Jarman.

      For more on iSeries upgrades, see www.ibm.com/eserver/iseries/.

Where are the new 8xx benchmarks?

      IBM has showcased the Model 890 in benchmark studies, including the study in which the 16-way 890 set a new industry record with 3,600 Secure Socket Layer (SSL) simultaneous connections in SPECWeb99 SSL benchmark testing in September 2002. Shops should not expect the same for the smaller 8xx boxes, announced in January.

      “We have benchmark testing on the the i890, but there are no plans to benchmark the smaller models. A benchmark is primarily a marketing tool, and during testing, the configurations are finely tuned and constricted in order to reach that marketing goal,” says Ian Jarman, iSeries product manager, IBM, Rochester, MN.

      While benchmarks are good for bragging rights, IBM feels that there is more to selling the low-end models than comparing stacked workloads.

      “We are more focused on demonstrating the technologies that people will actually deploy on iSeries than we are on going over older ground and benchmarks that already exist. Practically speaking, if you want to compare real-world performance for workloads, it’s best to run a sizing tool or go to a competency center,” says Jarman.

The Three-in-One i810 benchmark

      That said, Rochester did develop the Three-in-One benchmark to mirror the real-world demands facing their customers. Conducted on an i810, this was designed to showcase the unique ability of the iSeries server to run multiple applications under typical, everyday stresses.

      According to IBM, this benchmark shows that Model 810 customers can successfully run the server right out of the box, achieve subsecond response times for multiple applications running simultaneously, and easily handle unexpected opportunities and demands without adding or upgrading servers.

      For the Three-in-One benchmark, see http://www-1.ibm.com/servers/eserver/iseries/hardware/threeinone/.

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